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Les Gelb pentagon papers interview

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers Gelb reflected in 2018 that many people have misunderstood the most important lessons of the Pentagon Papers: Ellsberg created the myth that what the Papers show is that it all was a bunch of lies... [The truth] is, people actually believed in the war and were ignorant about what could and could not actually be done to do well in that war. That's what you see when you actually read the Papers, as opposed to talk about the Papers... [M]y first instinct was that if they just hit the papers, people would think this was the definitive history of the war, which they were not, and that people would, would think it was all about lying, rather than beliefs. And look, because we'd never learned that darn lesson about believing our way into these wars, we went into Afghanistan and we went into Iraq... You know, we get involved in these wars and we don't know a damn thing about those countries, the culture, the history, the politics, peo...

in retrospect (McNamara)

  https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Ut6WCcHLYsw92UaEMSHoPLkceHkv6ln/view?usp=drive_link https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Ut6WCcHLYsw92UaEMSHoPLkceHkv6ln/view?usp=sharing Robert S. McNamara, In retrospect : the tragedy and lessons of Vietnam, [1995]  Robert S. McNamara  with Brian vanDeMark, In retrospect : the tragedy and lessons of Vietnam, [1995]  McNamara, Robert S. In retrospect : the tragedy and lesson of Vietnam / Robert S. McNamara with Brian VanDeMark.──1st ed.  1. vietnam conflict, 1961─1975 ── united states.  DS558.M44  1995 959.704'3373──dc20 Robert S. McNamara, In retrospect : the tragedy and lessons of Vietnam, [1995]     ( In retrospect : the tragedy and lesson of Vietnam / Robert S. McNamara with Brian VanDeMark.──1st ed., 1. vietnam conflict, 1961─1975 ── united states., DS558.M44  1995, 959.704'3373──dc20, )  <------------------------------------------------------------------------> p.xvii The ancient Gr...

secrets (Ellsberg)

  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Koht19eBLdaL3xt1BhIH9zBu29eHPBG8/view?usp=drive_link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Koht19eBLdaL3xt1BhIH9zBu29eHPBG8/view?usp=sharing Secrets : a memoir of vietnam and the pentagon papers by Daniel Ellsberg Ellsberg, Daniel. Secrets : a memoir of vietnam and the pentagon papers / daniel ellsberg. 1. vietnamese conflict, 1961─1975──unitd states. 2. pentagon papers. 3. ellsberg, daniel DS558 .E44 2002 959.704'3373──dc21 Adobe garamond Daniel Ellsberg, Secrets : a memoir of vietnam and the pentagon papers, 2002     (Secrets : a memoir of vietnam and the pentagon papers / daniel ellsberg., 1. vietnamese conflict, 1961─1975──unitd states., 2. pentagon papers., 3. ellsberg, daniel., DS558 .E44 2002, 959.704'3373──dc21, 2002, ) www.ellsberg.net  chapter 1  The tonkin gulf : August 1964  p.10 As negative evidence accumulated, within a few days it came to seem less likely that any attack had occurred on August 4; by 1967 it ...